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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 30 Mar 1995

Vol. 142 No. 12

Adjournment Matters. - Army School of Music.

I thank the Cathaoirleach for allowing me to raise this important matter of the future of the Army School of Music and, in particular, the future of the band of the Curragh Command. I know that the Leas-Chathaoirligh and the Cathaoirleach who comes from Athlone will share my concern because the band of the Western Command is based there. I also thank the Minister of State, Deputy Barrett, for attending here this afternoon. I am aware that he dealt with this matter in another place.

There is not time this afternoon to go into the wider issues raised by the efficiency audit group and the Price Waterhouse report on the Army and the Department of Defence, other than to say that there is general agreement there must be change in the Defence Forces. However, I hope the Minister will agree that it would be highly undesirable to lose such valuable assets as the Army bands and the Army equestrian school.

The Minister is aware there are considerable fears inside and outside the Army about the future of the Army bands and the possibility that a great tradition of military music and ceremony could be lost. I note the Minister of State, Deputy Barrett, stated that no decisions have been taken regarding the reform of any unit of the Defence Forces and that almost all rumours are inaccurate. He also stated that the rumours and speculation about the Army School of Music are as inaccurate.

I submit that the fears about the band of the Curragh Command are real and not groundless. There are 193 people in the Army School of Music and the Price Waterhouse report recommends a figure of 45 to make up the strength of the school, which is only enough for one band. I understand from my inquiries that the Army general staff is agreeable to a strength of 80. In these circumstances, the fears are reasonable. The personnel in the band of the Curragh Command, the wider community around the Curragh, Kildare and Newbridge and I are concerned and I wish to have a guarantee from the Minister that the future of the Curragh band is secure. I do not want another bland statement such as that at column 1392 in the Dáil Official Report of 14 March 1995: "...the Government will take full account of the illustrious tradition of military music which has been associated with the Army School of Music."

I wish to remind the Minister of what this illustrious tradition means. There is an unbroken tradition of military music in the Curragh, dating back to 1813. At one time there were 11 bands in the Curragh alone and even during the transition from British to Irish rule, the St. James Band from Belfast provided military music there. As the Minister is aware, in 1923, the No. 1 Army Band under Colonel Friz Brase, Kaiser Wilhelm II's bandsman, was founded. On 13 October 1923, the Army School of Music was established at Beggars Bush Barracks under Commandant J. Coughlan. In addition to the brass bands, six pipe bands were formed so there is an unbroken tradition going back for more than 70 years. In his history of the Irish Army, Lieutenant Colonel John Duggan records of the 1920s and 1930s: "On a more positive note, the Irish public was developing a high regard for the Forces. The army bands had kept up the great start made in winning their hearts."

This is still true today and the support the band of the Curragh Command enjoys was very evident when it led the St. Patrick's Day parade in Newbridge. The band has played a very important role, not just in military tradition, but in the social and musical life of the county and beyond. The Newbridge Community Band, the St. Evin's Band in Monasterevin, the Ballymore Band and the band in Ballyroan, County Laois all owe their origins and training to members of the Curragh Command band. Half of our professional musicians are employed by the Army bands. They have been a huge help to local music groups and a gateway to alternative opportunities and successful musical careers for many young people.

The Minister gave an assurance that there will be no forced redundancies, but, with respect, that is not the issue. People who entered the Army School of Music at 14 years of age and stayed for more than 30 years may be willing to accept redundancy, but they would be a huge loss. The bands cannot be judged on the basis of a financial balance sheet alone. The chances of trained brass players getting employment elsewhere are slim.

The members of the bands have contributed to military morale, enhanced State and public occasions, have had leading composers compose music for them, have brought professional music to Cork, the Curragh and Athlone, and trained and arranged music for local bands that would otherwise not have existed. These are assets which do not appear on a financial balance sheet, but they must not be lost. I appeal to the Minister to give the assurance I need about their future.

I express my gratitude to Senator Dardis for providing me with this opportunity to clarify the position regarding the future of the Army School of Music and the four Army bands in the context of the efficiency audit group review of the Defence Forces.

On a number of occasions in recent weeks, it has been made clear that no decisions have been taken as a result of the efficiency audit group report, which has yet to be considered by Government. Accordingly, nothing has been decided concerning any element of the Defence Forces, including the Army School of Music and the Army bands. There has been no change in that position.

Since the unauthorised publication of extracts from the report prepared by Price Waterhouse for the efficiency audit group, there has been an endless succession of rumours regarding various aspects of the Defence Forces. Many of these rumours are inaccurate and some are complete nonsense. As a result of such ill-informed speculation, needless annoyance is being caused to members of the Defence Forces and their families. There is a real need for a balanced and informed debate on the future of the Defence Forces. Unfortunately, the focus of attention in recent times has been diverted by gossip into a number of irrelevant culs-de-sac.

Before dealing with the issue of bands in particular, I wish to remind the House that the efficiency audit group review did not arrive as a bolt from the blue. It was initiated by the previous Government for very good reasons. Unfortunately, there has been a tendency to confine discussion to isolated and potentially controversial issues. This is diverting attention from the many real problems which have been identified and which the Government is determined to address.

In responding to these problems, the Government's overall objective for the Defence Forces is to develop a modern, efficient organisation, staffed and equipped to fulfil the roles assigned to it by Government. This is in the national interest and in the interest of the Defence Forces and is supported on all sides of the House. In pursuing this objective, the Government is mindful that there are important human, social and economic dimensions to the process of reform. In moving towards it, there will be an extensive process of consultation, which is already well under way.

It has been reported in the media that there is concern among military bandsmen that they may lose their jobs as a result of the efficiency audit group review. I wish to lay that particular rumour to rest now. It goes without saying that there will be no compulsory redundancies in the Defence Forces. This guarantee applies to military bandsmen on the same basis as it applies to all personnel in the Defence Forces.

Given that no decisions have been taken, there is little point in engaging in speculation about the possible implications of change for each individual unit of the Defence Forces in turn. However, I assure the House that the lurid tales of cutbacks and closures, which have circulated in recent times, are completely wide of the mark. The rumours and speculation about the Army School of Music are as ill-informed as the others. The Government has not taken any decision regarding the bands.

For many years, the Army bands have made an invaluable contribution to the life of the Defence Forces. They have an important role on many State occasions. They are also in demand to give public performances at major events throughout the country. On St. Patrick's Day recently, the Army bands were centre stage for the celebration of our national day.

For many years, Army musicians have maintained an admirable standard of excellence. The presence of Army bands has contributed a unique lustre to important national events. They have an important role in maintaining the esprit de corps of the Defence Forces. When the Government is planning for the future of the Defence Forces, our focus will be on building on the many positive attributes of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps. I can assure the House that in reaching decisions about the future organisation of the Defence Forces, the contribution made by the Army bands will be fully borne in mind.

I am committed to ensuring that any reforms will be implemented in a planned and sensitive manner. Where changes are required, they will be introduced as part of a comprehensive programme and at a realistic pace.

Senator Dardis referred to the equestrian school. I have been assigned special responsibility to ensure that the equestrian school is expanded, that it has adequate resources and top class riders and animals to help promote the image of this country at home and abroad. It is the Government's intention that we will have an equitation school of which we can continue to be proud and that the members will continue to give excellent service.

The Seanad adjourned at 4.50 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 4 April 1995.

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